{"id":113,"date":"2003-03-17T16:36:00","date_gmt":"2003-03-17T20:36:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/wp\/?p=200"},"modified":"2003-03-17T16:36:00","modified_gmt":"2003-03-17T20:36:00","slug":"mark-pilgrim-on-xhtml-basic","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/2003\/03\/mark-pilgrim-on-xhtml-basic\/","title":{"rendered":"Mark Pilgrim on XHTML Basic"},"content":{"rendered":"

Mark talks about how he\nimplemented<\/a>\nhis Dive Into Mark Mobile Edition, and\nin doing so talks about XHTML Basic<\/a>,\nwhich I co-edited. He’s mostly correct, but there are some points I’d like to\nrespond to.<\/p>\n\n

The “link” element has a extremely low conformance profile; all it means to\nsupport it is that you don’t fault when you discover it. Supporting “link” doesn’t\nmean you have to support CSS.<\/p>\n\n

As for the list of elements which XHTML Basic left out, “b”, “i”, “center”,\nand “font” aren’t there because XHTML 1.0 – from which XHTML Basic builds –\nremoved them in the “presentation belongs in stylesheets” blitz of 1999.\nNested tables were indeed removed based on extensive feedback and wide<\/em>\nindustry support for doing so, due to the memory consumed during their processing.\nThough I don’t know for sure, I’m quite confident that AvantGo does not support\narbitrarily complex nested tables, which suggests that some form of subset would\nneed to be defined should their solution ever be opened up anyhow.<\/p>\n\n

It is not true that XHTML Basic has to use the\napplication\/xhtml+xml<\/a> media\ntype. In many cases it is appropriate to use “text\/html”, though the W3C\napparently disagrees with me there; their\n“XHTML Media Types”<\/a> note says that\nit “SHOULD NOT” be used. Whatever. I doubt any text\/html processor would\nhave trouble with XHTML Basic, just don’t expect it to be treated as XML or\nXHTML.<\/p>\n\n

Mark’s conclusion, “As I said, XHTML Basic has no basis in reality. Ignore it.”,\nfor North Americans, probably isn’t too far from the truth. In much of Asia and\nparts of Europe though, it’s important, and its importance will probably be\nspreading.<\/p>\n\n

Not that I really care that much. The reason I contributed to its\ndevelopment was because of Sun’s objective that WAP should use commodity\nprotocols rather than wireless specific ones, and we did that. Though\nWAP 2.0 extended XHTML Basic, I’m confident that in time, those\nextensions will be ignored and HTML\/XHTML will remain in some form,\nlikely richer than XHTML Basic. I look forward to seeing that language\ndocumented after the fact; XHTML Basic 3.2 anyone? 8-)<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Mark talks about how he implemented his Dive Into Mark Mobile Edition, and in doing so talks about XHTML Basic, which I co-edited. He’s mostly correct, but there are some points I’d like to respond to. The “link” element has a extremely low conformance profile; all it means to support it is that you don’t […]","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[34,40],"class_list":["post-113","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-w3c","tag-xml"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/113","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=113"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/113\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=113"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=113"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=113"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}