{"id":129,"date":"2003-06-01T18:39:00","date_gmt":"2003-06-01T22:39:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/wp\/?p=184"},"modified":"2003-06-01T18:39:00","modified_gmt":"2003-06-01T22:39:00","slug":"timbl-on-the-semantic-web-and-integration","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/2003\/06\/timbl-on-the-semantic-web-and-integration\/","title":{"rendered":"TimBL on the Semantic Web and Integration"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Jeremy Allaire posts a\n<a href=\"http:\/\/radio.weblogs.com\/0113297\/2003\/03\/23.html#a158\">transcript<\/a>\nof a &#8220;conversation&#8221;(?) with Tim Berners-Lee on the Semantic Web at\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.edventure.com\/pcforum\/index.cfm\">PC Forum<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n<p>Here&#8217;s a snippet which includes some of Tim&#8217;s words, plus Jeremy&#8217;s commentary;<\/p>\n\n<blockquote>\n<p>TBL:  business model for semantic web is the biz model of the web.  it&#8217;s how apps interoperate, it&#8217;s how apps talk.  short answer:  dramatically reduce cost of enterprise app integration.<\/p>\n\n<p>(My side conversation with Adam Bosworth, BEA chief architect and ex-Microsoft, Adam helped shape many of the XML standards.  We both agree that this RDF thing is a big joke and TBL is on another planet.  Adam helped drive the creation of XML Schema and XML Namespaces, as well as Web Services standards that uses these, and these are the things that are actually driving the semantic web.  Virtualy no one uses RDF, but nearly everyone is moving to these other standards).<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>I&#8217;m a big believer in the technology behind the Semantic Web,\nbut am skeptical that it will see widescale deployment anytime soon,\ndue mainly to the (current) lack of a killer app.  But that doesn&#8217;t\nreduce its value for application integration by very much.  As we&#8217;ve\nseen, <a href=\"http:\/\/api.google.com\/\">any form<\/a>, of exposure of a\nsystem in a machine processable manner is an improvement over the\nalternative of having <a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/xml\">no access<\/a>.\nIt sounds to me like Jeremy and maybe Adam don&#8217;t even see the Semantic\nWeb as a solution to the same problem that they&#8217;re tackling in their Web\nservices work.  Well, it is, and it&#8217;s worth investigating further before\nso easily dismissing it.<\/p>\n\n<p>I&#8217;d recommend reading an earlier blog entry about\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/2002\/09\/Blog\/2002\/11\/17#2002-11-rdf\">the value of the Semantic Web for integration<\/a>.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Jeremy Allaire posts a transcript of a &#8220;conversation&#8221;(?) with Tim Berners-Lee on the Semantic Web at PC Forum. Here&#8217;s a snippet which includes some of Tim&#8217;s words, plus Jeremy&#8217;s commentary; TBL: business model for semantic web is the biz model of the web. it&#8217;s how apps interoperate, it&#8217;s how apps talk. short answer: dramatically reduce [&hellip;]","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[40],"class_list":["post-129","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-xml"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/129","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=129"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/129\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=129"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=129"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=129"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}