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\n\nIn response to\nTim Bray’s piece<\/a> calling bullshit on SOA,\nLoek Bakker<\/a>\nresponded with some comments that get right to the heart of the matter, IMO;<\/p>\n\n That’s really interesting from my POV because it shows that\nafter many years of a debate, that we – the Web folks – still\nhaven’t successfully gotten our message across.<\/p>\n\n That message? That these services are<\/em> competitive.<\/p>\n\n It’s as\nSean says<\/a>\n(channeling some unnamed prophet);<\/p>\n\n Meaning, in this context, that if you want to build something\nsuitable for “high-volume, cross-platform A2A transactions”, start\nwith the Web and\nbuild up<\/a>.\nWeb services don’t do that; they strayed from that the\nmoment<\/a>\nthey confused\ntransfer with transport<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n Tags:\nsoap<\/a>,\nsoa<\/a>,\nrest<\/a>,\nweb<\/a>,\nwebservices<\/a>.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"In response to Tim Bray’s piece calling bullshit on SOA, Loek Bakker responded with some comments that get right to the heart of the matter, IMO; WS-* services and REST services are not competing, they are complementary. Web Style serves another purpose than SOA. Consumer-facing services have other QoS requirements than high-volume, cross-platform A2A transaction […]","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[22,26,40],"class_list":["post-1541","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-rest","tag-soap","tag-xml"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1541","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1541"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1541\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1541"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1541"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1541"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}\nWS-* services and REST services are not competing, they are complementary. Web Style serves another purpose than SOA. Consumer-facing services have other QoS requirements than high-volume, cross-platform A2A transaction services.\n<\/blockquote>\n\n
\nA complex system that works invariably can be traced back to a simple system that worked\n<\/blockquote>\n\n