{"id":1680,"date":"2006-11-06T12:15:57","date_gmt":"2006-11-06T16:15:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/2006\/11\/06\/wso2-doesnt-get-it\/"},"modified":"2006-11-06T12:15:57","modified_gmt":"2006-11-06T16:15:57","slug":"wso2-doesnt-get-it","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/2006\/11\/wso2-doesnt-get-it\/","title":{"rendered":"WSO2 doesn&#8217;t get it"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I like how news of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.crummy.com\/writing\/REST-Web-Services\/\">Sam and Leonard&#8217;s REST book<\/a> is kicking off a new REST\/SOAP thread.  This time though, it seems the tables are turned and it&#8217;s the Web services proponents who are having to defend their preferred architectural style, rather than other way around.  It&#8217;s about freakin&#8217; time!  I&#8217;m kinda tuckered 8-O<\/p>\n\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bloglines.com\/blog\/sanjiva?id=159\">Sanjiva chimes in<\/a>, in response <a href=\"http:\/\/www.intertwingly.net\/blog\/2006\/11\/05\/POX-and-SOAP\">to Sam&#8217;s probing questions<\/a>;<\/p>\n\n<blockquote cite=\"http:\/\/www.bloglines.com\/blog\/sanjiva?id=159\">\nARGH. I wish people will stop saying flatly incorrect things about a SOAP message: it does NOT contain the method name. That&#8217;s just a way of interpreting SOAP messages [&#8230;] SOAP is just carrying some XML and in some cases people may want to interpret the XML as a representation of a procedure call\/response. However, that&#8217;s a choice of interpretation for users and two parties of a communication may interpret it differently and still interoperate.\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Oh my.<\/p>\n\n<p>Every message has a &#8220;method&#8221;; a symbol which is defined to have a certain meaning understood by sender and recipient so that the sender understands what it&#8217;s asking be done, and the recipient knows what it&#8217;s being asked to do.  A recipient which doesn&#8217;t understand what is being asked of it cannot process the message for hopefully obvious reasons.<\/p>\n\n<p>What Sanjiva&#8217;s talking about there is <em>ambiguity as a feature<\/em> of Web services; that some recipients will interpret a message to mean one thing, while others another.  Note that this is very different than what the recipients actually <em>do<\/em> in response to the message; that can and should, obviously, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.coactus.com\/blog\/2006\/10\/one-thing\/\">vary<\/a>.  But varying <em>interpretations<\/em> of the meaning of the message?  Absurd.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"I like how news of Sam and Leonard&#8217;s REST book is kicking off a new REST\/SOAP thread. This time though, it seems the tables are turned and it&#8217;s the Web services proponents who are having to defend their preferred architectural style, rather than other way around. It&#8217;s about freakin&#8217; time! I&#8217;m kinda tuckered 8-O Sanjiva [&hellip;]","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[22,26,48,38,40],"class_list":["post-1680","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-rest","tag-soap","tag-softarch","tag-webservices","tag-xml"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1680","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1680"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1680\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1680"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1680"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1680"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}