{"id":208,"date":"2003-11-09T20:56:00","date_gmt":"2003-11-10T00:56:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/wp\/?p=105"},"modified":"2003-11-09T20:56:00","modified_gmt":"2003-11-10T00:56:00","slug":"silos","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/2003\/11\/silos\/","title":{"rendered":"Silos"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Tim Bray just <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tbray.org\/ongoing\/When\/200x\/2003\/11\/09\/SemWebFirstStep\">chimed in<\/a>\non the whole Shirky issue, and is pretty much bang-on again.  I&#8217;m not going to talk about that issue\nthough, but I wanted to discuss something Tim brought up, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.xbrl.org\/\">XBRL<\/a>.  He wrote;<\/p>\n\n<blockquote>\nOf course, if companies as a matter of routine posted XBRL versions of their financials at addresses like data.ibm.com and data.renault.com and data.hsbc.com and data.daimler-chrysler.com, a huge amount of time and money would be saved. And you&#8217;d have taken some useful steps towards a machine-processable web.\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>I think he&#8217;s right there, mostly.  In the case of a bunch of XBRL\/HTTP agents\n(or indeed any data format and HTTP), you have a machine processable <em>system<\/em>,\nand a pretty darned useful one too; I&#8217;m not trying to diminish the value that would\nprovide <em>at all<\/em> by these comments. But it&#8217;s just <em>a<\/em> system, one\nthat doesn&#8217;t have anything to do with (i.e. has no way to integrate with) any other\nHTTP based system.  It&#8217;s a silo.<\/p>\n\n<p>Where we really want to get to, is to do away with silos entirely.  The Web solved the\n&#8220;protocol\/interface silo&#8221; problem (though many still don&#8217;t recognize that).  Now, phase two will\naim to solve the &#8220;data silo&#8221; problem (which the example above is a case of).  I don&#8217;t know if it\nwill work or not, but we&#8217;ve got the right <a href=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\">team<\/a> on the job IMO.<\/p>\n\n<p>BTW, I also liked Tim&#8217;s comments about betting against TimBL, and &#8220;shooting fish in a barrel&#8221;.\nIt reminds me of an earlier\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/2002\/09\/Blog\/2003\/06\/01#2003-06-integration\">blog entry<\/a>\nI made about Jeremy Allaire, and indirectly Adam Bosworth, saying that TimBL was &#8220;on another\nplanet&#8221;.  Heh, right.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Tim Bray just chimed in on the whole Shirky issue, and is pretty much bang-on again. I&#8217;m not going to talk about that issue though, but I wanted to discuss something Tim brought up, XBRL. He wrote; Of course, if companies as a matter of routine posted XBRL versions of their financials at addresses like [&hellip;]","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-208","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/208","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=208"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/208\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=208"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=208"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=208"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}