{"id":342,"date":"2004-04-23T17:42:00","date_gmt":"2004-04-23T21:42:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/wp\/?p=331"},"modified":"2004-04-23T17:42:00","modified_gmt":"2004-04-23T21:42:00","slug":"rss-deltasigma-and-strawmen","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/2004\/04\/rss-deltasigma-and-strawmen\/","title":{"rendered":"RSS delta\/sigma and strawmen"},"content":{"rendered":"

Ok, fess up, who\npissed in Chris’ coffee<\/a>\nthis morning?<\/p>\n\n

I think the operative word from my blog that Chris missed was “need”; that,\nIMO, we need a WS-* RSS feed because new specs are appearing at a crazy rate.\nYou can’t compare that with the W3C’s TR page and corresponding RSS feed\nbecause it represents deltas while the Wiki represents a sigma. If the W3C\npublished a list of recommendations via\nRSS, that would make for a more fair comparison. So how many Recs have they\npublished? Let’s see, in almost 10 years, they’ve got about 80 (90ish if you\ninclude the IETF specs), while there’s 40ish Web services specs listed on the\nWiki, the bulk of which have been produced in the past two or three years. Not\nexactly apples-to-apples, but not too far from it.<\/p>\n\n

He concludes;<\/p>\n\n

\nPlease don’t misunderstand my intent, I like HTTP. Unlike Mark, neither do I think it is the last protocol we’ll ever need (it is not), nor do I spend every waking moment trying to tear it down or to poke fun at things that it simply doesn’t handle effectively. That would be pointless.\n<\/blockquote>\n\n

Please don’t misunderstand my<\/em> intent, I like SOAP. I just don’t\nlike how it’s being used. It would best used for document exchange, not RPC (Web\nservices circa 1999-2002), or RPC dressed to look like document exchange (present\nday Web services). I also don’t “poke fun” at Web services very often,\nbut I do take pride in being able to point out their many architectural\nflaws in a variety of different ways, which I do frequently. And I don’t think HTTP\nis “the last protocol we’ll ever need”, though I do believe that if it suddenly became\nimpossible to create any more, that it wouldn’t be such a big deal, at least for\nthose of us building document exchange based Internet scale integration solutions. As\nfor what things HTTP “simply doesn’t handle effectively”, I believe you grossly\noverestimate the number of items in that list, though clearly it’s non-empty.<\/p>\n\n

So do me a favour and drop the strawmen, ok? You’ve been pulling that\ncrap for years.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Ok, fess up, who pissed in Chris’ coffee this morning? I think the operative word from my blog that Chris missed was “need”; that, IMO, we need a WS-* RSS feed because new specs are appearing at a crazy rate. You can’t compare that with the W3C’s TR page and corresponding RSS feed because it […]","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[26,34],"class_list":["post-342","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-soap","tag-w3c"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/342","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=342"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/342\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=342"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=342"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=342"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}