{"id":392,"date":"2004-06-03T12:43:00","date_gmt":"2004-06-03T16:43:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/wp\/?p=407"},"modified":"2004-06-03T12:43:00","modified_gmt":"2004-06-03T16:43:00","slug":"tim-bray-on-mark-hapner-on-ws","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/2004\/06\/tim-bray-on-mark-hapner-on-ws\/","title":{"rendered":"Tim Bray on Mark Hapner on WS-*"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Tim <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tbray.org\/ongoing\/When\/200x\/2004\/06\/02\/FromTheWeb\">writes<\/a>;<\/p>\n\n<blockquote>\nIn recent decades, he points out, good new technologies have first appeared in rough-and-ready form on the Internet, then migrated into the enterprise. [&#8230;] But all the WS-* hullabaloo is trying to go the other way; [&#8230;]\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>Yep, I&#8217;ve been\n<a href=\"http:\/\/lists.w3.org\/Archives\/Public\/www-ws-arch\/2002May\/0379.html\">pointing this out<\/a>\nfor years.<\/p>\n\n<p>But why is this so?  Mark&#8217;s observation are empirically correct, but how do you explain it?\nI believe the study of software architecture provides a hypothesis; Intranet based architectures\nare insufficiently constrained to provide the necessary architectural properties to manage an\nabundancy of trust boundaries.  An intranet is a <em>special case<\/em> of the Internet in this\nway, and therefore architectural styles developed for the latter are not, in general, suitable\nfor the former.  But because the Internet is the general case, architectural styles developed\nfor it are transferrable to the intranet.<\/p>\n\n<p>I&#8217;ve been recently thinking about this in terms of\n<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Fitness_landscape\">&#8220;Fitness Landscapes&#8221;<\/a>,\nwhich I learned about from one of\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.santafe.edu\/sfi\/People\/kauffman\/\">Stuart Kaufmann<\/a>&#8216;s\nbooks a few years ago.  But\n<a>Christoper Alexander<\/a>&#8216;s\nwork on architecture and pattern languages is also relevant.  In fact, I bet that in\nmost fields there&#8217;s some guru who&#8217;s made this same fundamental observation.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Tim writes; In recent decades, he points out, good new technologies have first appeared in rough-and-ready form on the Internet, then migrated into the enterprise. [&#8230;] But all the WS-* hullabaloo is trying to go the other way; [&#8230;] Yep, I&#8217;ve been pointing this out for years. But why is this so? Mark&#8217;s observation are [&hellip;]","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-392","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/392","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=392"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/392\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=392"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=392"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=392"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}