{"id":478,"date":"2004-09-30T12:10:00","date_gmt":"2004-09-30T16:10:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/wp\/2004\/09\/30\/tim-ewald-on-rest-and-soap\/"},"modified":"2004-09-30T12:10:00","modified_gmt":"2004-09-30T16:10:00","slug":"tim-ewald-on-rest-and-soap","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/2004\/09\/tim-ewald-on-rest-and-soap\/","title":{"rendered":"Tim Ewald on REST and SOAP"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/pluralsight.com\/blogs\/tewald\/archive\/2004\/09\/30\/2500.aspx\">He writes<\/a>;<\/p>\n\n<blockquote>\nI don&#8217;t think people are embracing REST services because of architectural purity (the rest of the Web isn&#8217;t pure REST, so I don&#8217;t know why this would be). Rather, they embrace it because it&#8217;s easier in a lot of cases. There is no reason that SOAP couldn&#8217;t be the same, except that toolkits hide raw XML and you have to know how to get it.\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>To the first point, yes, certainly, they embrace it because it&#8217;s simpler and easier.\nAbsolutely.  As we&#8217;ve <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bloglines.com\/services\/\">seen<\/a>, they often\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/2002\/09\/Blog\/2004\/09\/20#2004-09-bloglines\">screw up<\/a>,\nbut even then it&#8217;s very often preferable to SOA.<\/p>\n\n<p>To the second point, there actually <em>is<\/em> a critical reason (in addition to\nthe &#8220;hide the XML&#8221; problem) why SOA\/WS <em>cannot<\/em> be as simple as REST; that the\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.mnot.net\/blog\/2004\/09\/29\/ws_arch\">architectural constraints<\/a>\nwhich induce the bulk of the simplicity\nin REST (uniform interface, self-description), are eschewed by SOA\/WS.  Isn&#8217;t it ironic\nthat their raison d&#8217;etre &#8211; service specific interfaces &#8211; is the reason they will fail\nto see widespread deployment?  I think so. 8-)<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"He writes; I don&#8217;t think people are embracing REST services because of architectural purity (the rest of the Web isn&#8217;t pure REST, so I don&#8217;t know why this would be). Rather, they embrace it because it&#8217;s easier in a lot of cases. There is no reason that SOAP couldn&#8217;t be the same, except that toolkits [&hellip;]","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[26,40],"class_list":["post-478","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-soap","tag-xml"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/478","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=478"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/478\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=478"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=478"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=478"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}