{"id":668,"date":"2005-02-07T09:59:00","date_gmt":"2005-02-07T13:59:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/wp\/2005\/02\/07\/stewart-butterfield-on-metadata-rest\/"},"modified":"2005-02-07T09:59:00","modified_gmt":"2005-02-07T13:59:00","slug":"stewart-butterfield-on-metadata-rest","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/2005\/02\/stewart-butterfield-on-metadata-rest\/","title":{"rendered":"Stewart Butterfield on metadata, REST"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/usefulinc.com\/edd\/blog\/contents\/2005\/02\/05-xtech-keynotes\/read\">Via Edd<\/a>,\na link to an\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.oreillynet.com\/pub\/a\/network\/2005\/02\/04\/sb_flckr.html\">interview with Stewart Butterfield<\/a>.\nIt&#8217;s a great interview all-round, but here&#8217;s a couple of points on\ntopic for my weblog;<\/p>\n\n<blockquote>\nPeople who would be reluctant to provide metadata most of the time do so on Flickr because there&#8217;s a payoff for them. A) other people see their work&#8211;work is probably the wrong word because I don&#8217;t think most people see it as work in a serious artistic sense&#8211; but people see what they&#8217;re up to, see what they&#8217;re creating. And B) because they derive some pleasure from building value in the global collection.\n<\/blockquote>\n\n<p>I think this point is often missed by those who hold the\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.tbray.org\/ongoing\/When\/200x\/2003\/07\/29\/SearchMeta\">&#8220;no cheap metadata&#8221;<\/a>\nposition.  Turning &#8220;metadata&#8221; keywords into dereferencable URIs &#8211; as\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\">Flickr<\/a>\n(among <a href=\"http:\/\/del.icio.us\">others<\/a>) does &#8211;\nprovides the means by which these &#8220;payoffs&#8221; that Stewart refers to, can be\nrealized, cheaply.  For me, it also helps drive home the point that one\nperson&#8217;s metadata is another&#8217;s data, as this feedback loop is exactly the\nsame one that exists when you publish any data behind a dereferencable URI.\nTaking it further, one might, for example, provide metadata for the Flickr\nmetadata, which\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/krazydad\/sets\/95767\/\">this<\/a> is, if\nyou squint a bit (not literally 8-).\nAnd to complete the loop and emphasize the point, one could easily republish\nmany of these new images as new\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/groups\/circle\/\">squared circles<\/a>.  Fractal!<\/p>\n\n<p>As pointed out by Edd, Stewart also had this to say about Web services\/REST;<\/p>\n\n<blockquote>\nI think we had one person inquire about using the SOAP version of the API. I don&#8217;t know if any apps were actually built. There is at least one application built on XML-RPC. But all the others&#8211;I don&#8217;t even know how many there are&#8211;are built on the REST API. It&#8217;s just so easy to develop that way; I think it&#8217;s foolish to do anything else.\n<\/blockquote>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Via Edd, a link to an interview with Stewart Butterfield. It&#8217;s a great interview all-round, but here&#8217;s a couple of points on topic for my weblog; People who would be reluctant to provide metadata most of the time do so on Flickr because there&#8217;s a payoff for them. A) other people see their work&#8211;work is [&hellip;]","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[26,40],"class_list":["post-668","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-soap","tag-xml"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/668","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=668"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/668\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=668"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=668"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.markbaker.ca\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=668"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}