Fun with a Turing test
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Hey look, a WS-spec built largely upon a state transfer based architecture. Who knew? *groan*
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Ouch! 8-) “As far as the web is concerned, the WS-* work is about sprinkling XML pixie dust on a failing idea.”
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It’s not all bad news apparently. While one activity of the W3C treats N^2 integration complexity as a selling point, a new one fights hard against it. Talk about split-brained!

IMO, before any new WG is chartered at the W3C, the objective of that WG should be validated for architectural consistency with the Web (you know, the thing it’s trying to lead to its full potential?).

Here we have a WG whose primary objective is to produce a spec which will, prima facie based upon its charter, violate a key architecture principle (what, it’s just “good practice”?) of the Web; identify things with URIs. How can you get any more architecturally inconsistent than that?

I’m not upset, I’m just confused. How has it gone this far? Mass hysteria should not be an excuse. It’s a good thing that OASIS seems to have done the bulk of of the WS-* heavy lifting, leaving just four at the W3C. But that’s three (SOAP is goodness) too many, and it could have been much worse for the W3C.

Anyhow, best of luck Mark, you’re gonna need it.

Update: just noticed this comment from Jorgen;

As they say, “You can’t finish unless you start”.

Unless you’re finished before you start, of course.

s/transport/transfer darn it. 8-) A fine summary of the gnarly issues one will face doing XML over HTTP
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My kingdom for mustIgnore! 8-)
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A couple of interesting developments out of Grand Central. These guys have got it going on. Their network is largely state transfer based; not REST, but not far from it either, and “like it” in the right way. At least they’ve (mostly) got past the API-centric view of the world espoused by Web services proponents (yes, even for “document centric” Web services), despite paying lip service to WSDL.

Plus they’ve got a Semantic Web proponent as CTO. Look for more good things from GC (and from third parties on their platform) in the coming months and years.

An HTTP proxy that determines when I’m POSTing weblog comments (or other things, for that matter), and provides an RSS feed for them.

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