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Four years later, and we still don’t know the architectural constraints of Web services/SOA 8-(
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“Is this science? Truth? No, it’s the voice of goons.” +1
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Nice. But damn, how hard is it to get Roy’s name right? This at least the third or fourth time I’ve seen “Ray Fielding”.
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“[..] if you have an incredible idea of your own […] people around you will consider you a moron right up until the point your idea works. Then they’ll think you’re a lucky moron. Genius looks just like stupidity to the observer”
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So this is the infamous Yohei (in Japanese)
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Whither serendipity?
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“Is there going to be Web 2.1, followed by Web 2.2 (or perhaps 2.2 alpha)? Don’t you people have better things to do?” 8-)
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Woohoo, more competition for Futureshop/BestBuy
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“The right thing to do, of course, is only offer a GET binding to safe operations and not to everything” No, Sanjiva, that’s *not* the right thing to do. The right thing to do is to enforce GET as the operation.
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“This is where the biggest benefit is hidden: A clear approach to controller-design that’ll reduce complexity for the implementer and result in an application that behaves as a much better citizen on the general web.” Cool. Too bad Ruby makes me ill.
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And so begins the awesome holiday season wine releases in Ontario. Hang on to your wallets! Taylor 30 yr Tawny, mmm, Bordeaux 2nd growth, mmm. Opus One. Oculus. Siegerrebe Auslese. I’m in heaven.
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“WS-Ubuntu – […] Despite the name, it’s not really based on Ubuntu” ROTFL!! Good one, James. 8-)
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Whoa there, horsey. *Axis* doesn’t get it, and neither do some other recent projects, as well as a few pieces of other projects. What Apache is best known for – httpd – seems to have a pretty solid grasp on it.
According to Steve Jones, REST is a career limiting move;
But as with any technical discuss there is another thing that should drive you when you look to your decisions. This is whether you want to get fired for a decision when something goes wrong, and whether you want your skills to be relevant in 3 years time.
That would be funny if it weren’t so sad; completely accurate, yet aimed entirely in the wrong direction 8-(
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Damn, is this for real?!
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An example of how Axis2’s “REST support”, isn’t.
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A Grid-type embraces the Web.
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A hilarious, unpublished (in papers) Dilbert.
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Nooooooo!
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“ACM has three distinct member grades to recognize the professional accomplishments of our members”
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My thoughts *exactly*
Danny notes that I chimed in with some Web architectural advice for those considering SPARQL updates.
On that page, he asks;
I’d like to hear more from Mark about what he sees as problematic about the current notion of binding. Although the spec seems unusual, the end result does seem to respect WebArch
It does respect Web architecture, but only because it’s read-only. As soon as you need to add mutation support, or indeed any other operation on the same resource, the process fails and what results is not Web-friendly. This is because “operation on the same resource” doesn’t work if the operation is part of the resource name; if the operation changes, the name changes, and therefore the resource-identified changes.
This is the same problem that APIs such as Flickr and del.icio.us suffer from; Web-friendly for read-only, horribly broken for updates.
Making something Web-friendly means mapping your data and services into a set of inter-linked resources. Application-specific APIs works directly against that.
And FWIW, from a REST POV the constraint that’s being disregarded in these scenarios is commonly resource identification.
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“with REST, this turns out to be easy to fix”. I have to disagree that this is a quality of REST. One could easily build that capability into specs looking a whole lot like SOAP/WS-*, but you’d still have a crappy architecture.