Via Stefan,
this from Dave Orchard;
If there’s a core concept to examine in REST description languages wrt WSDL, it’s whether WSDL’s aggregation of operations into interfaces and then binding to http makes sense.
As my grade two teacher used to say, “No sh*t, Sherlock”! 8-)
Actually, she didn’t say that, but wouldn’t it be funny if she did?
Pina has a couple of Bosworth’s slides that you might find interesting
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“[…]SOAP, XML-RPC and REST (although they didn’t name XML-RPC, I think it’s more widely deployed than the other two)” Almost, Dave. You’re just off by an order of magnitude of orders of magnitude.
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How to build a slideshow widget …
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Steve seems to be assuming a different definition of “object orientation” than Michi, or me, or probably most people. My advice; avoid the term.
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Adam’s pitch at the “Web services considered harmful” panel was basically identical to this
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“I fully expect that they will release more content-modifying technology soon”. Those bastards.
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At least according to my
panel – and the audience – this afternoon.
This was
Tim Bray,
Adam Bosworth
(who’s a total REST-head now it seems),
myself, and Fumiaki Yoshimatsu (a Japanese co-worker of Jeff
Barr from Amazon, subbing for him), ably moderated by
Rohit Khare.
It went well. Very well in fact. Better than I expected. It was
largely the Adam and Tim show, of course. Both those guys really know
their stuff in addition to knowing how to tell a good story; a lethal combo
that a poor-story-telling tech-head like myself can’t really compete with.
My little
opening
statement presentation
was well received though. The panel moved along very smoothly, and quickly
too; I was concerned with the 90 minute duration, but we could have gone another
90.
The audience feedback was incredible. The first woman up had this
huge grin on her face saying “Thank you for that breath of
fresh air!”; she had no question, but just wanted to share the love I
guess. 8-) But when the only backlash you get from audience comes from
Hugo Haas,
I think you’re doing ok. 8-) (hugs, Hugo! 8-)
It’s too bad all the WS-* proponents originally scheduled to
participate had to cancel, as their participation would have added
an extra degree of credibility. But I think the large amount of
unanimous-but-for-Hugo glowing feedback we got put to bed the idea –
that I was concerned about, in fact – that it wouldn’t be very credible.
“Rather, they should have a few coarse-grained methods and carry no client-specific state”. 8-)
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