I’ve posted some thoughts on the recent W3C Enterprise Services Workshop.
Eric Newcomer succinctly summarizes my position on the history of Web vs. Web services; But I believe your argument is that the industry went the wrong way from those early days by not recognizing that the uniform interface was part of the required adaptation of traditional middleware concepts to the Web, is that right? Nicely… Read More »
It sounds like Sanjiva’s as baffled as I am how we can each hold the positions we do about what seems like a completely trivial point. He responds to my previous piece on the Web being for humans, and writes; The problem with GET is exactly what Mark points to as its feature: GET is… Read More »
I wanted to expand a little on my dismissal of Sanjiva’s argument that “The Web is necessarily human centric”. Sanjiva, in his support for – and authorship of – WSDL, presumably wants to permit developers to publish their own service-specific interfaces, such as ones supporting methods like the canonical “getStockQuote”, or even “getRealtimeStockQuote”. And I’m… Read More »
I tried to post this comment to Jorgen’s latest blog entry; Perhaps if SOA were defined, we’d be able to tell you whether there’s a problem that had a decent SOA based solution! 8-O All I know is that REST is an *improvement* upon SOA for multi-agency, data-oriented systems. The big win is that REST… Read More »
Personally, I like his previous attempt far, far better. Why go for loosey-goosey principles – few of which, AFAICT, are testable – when we all know that constraints define architectural styles? Come on Dave, give people the information they need to be able to say “That is SOA”, and “That isn’t”. A couple of years… Read More »
Stu Charlton responds to my comment (and Mark’s) about how Pat Helland did things the hard way in discovering REST in a recent paper of his; So, while the two Marks are suggesting Pat’s reached REST the hard way, I would suggest this is something he’s been saying for years, […] That is the hard… Read More »
According to Steve Jones, REST is a career limiting move; But as with any technical discuss there is another thing that should drive you when you look to your decisions. This is whether you want to get fired for a decision when something goes wrong, and whether you want your skills to be relevant in… Read More »
Sanjiva gave a talk at Google on Web services, which also touched on REST. Unfortunately there’s a lot of misinformation in there about REST, including a statement to the effect of “If you want to sign your message, you can’t use REST” (I don’t think I’m taking that out of context), plus a slide (@… Read More »
Ian Foster writes about OGSA-DAI (Data Access and Integration); […] it provides uniform Web Services interfaces to diverse data resources Neat! That’s so 1990. How many times do we really need to reinvent the Web, on top of the Web? All this because of a little confusion over a word. Wow.